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Donnerstag, 29. Juli 2010, 09:21

C-17 der US-Air Force in Alaska abgestürzt

Irgendwie ist momentan der Wurm in der Luftfahrt.

Heute ist in der Nähe der Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alsaka eine C-17 abgestürzt.

Leider sind auch hier wahrscheinlich Menschen (die Crew) ums Leben gekommen.

http://www.adn.com/2010/07/28/1385727/ca…wn-on-base.html


Boxi

EDITH: scheint erst heute passiert zu sein und mir ein Fehler durch die Zeitverschiebung unterlaufen ist

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Donnerstag, 29. Juli 2010, 09:35

Mann oh Mann, jetzt reichts aber wieder :S
:thumb:

Lauter Werkzeuge halt

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Donnerstag, 29. Juli 2010, 09:48

Anscheinend soll in Elmendorf demnächst eine Airshow stattfinden.
Der Flug, bei dem die C-17 verunglückte, soll evtl. ein Trainingsflug für diese Show gewesen sein.

Wenn man bei airliners.net jetzt auch noch diese Beiträge liest: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums…n/4879556/1/#73 dann könnte das auch im Zusammenhang mit der EAA Airshow in Oshkosh sehen. Dort war wohl sehr viel Glück im Spiel, was woanders leider gefehlt hat.


Thorsten

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Donnerstag, 29. Juli 2010, 11:43

Tragisch!

Und die Crew von der Premier hatte Dusel, daß sie nicht 5 Meter vorher oder nachher aufgeschlagen ist, denn sonst hätte keiner mehr aus dem Flieger laufen können.............

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Sonntag, 12. Dezember 2010, 14:38


"When my time on Earth is gone, and my activities here are past, I want they bury me upside down, and my critics can kiss my ass."Bob Knight

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.."
(Benjamin Franklin)

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Freitag, 17. Dezember 2010, 22:35

Zitat

Pilot error is the US Air Force's official cause for the first fatal crash of a Boeing C-17, but the service's investigation report has also exposed lax oversight of an over-aggressive flier who was allowed to repeatedly perform an unsafe airshow routine.
The crash report - released by the Pacific Air Forces Command on 13 December - also echoes the findings of a 16-year-old Boeing B-52 crash that ranks as one of the darkest chapters in USAF history and sparked a movement to reform the service's management and safety culture.
Aviation safety experts have already seized on the new report detailing how the C-17, code-named Sitka 43, crashed at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska within the first minute of a planned 12min routine. Despite its brief duration, the flight was still long enough for the pilot - Maj Michael Freyholtz - to deliberately break several safety rules despite several opportunities for his peers and commanders to stop him.
"Here we go again," says John Nance, an ABC News aviation consultant and former Lockheed C-141 transport pilot. "This is going to put aerial demonstrations for large airplanes under scrutiny. I think they need to stop."
The crash report describes Freyholtz as a pilot who was highly respected by his peers, and who was selected as his Alaska Air National Guard unit's first air show display pilot.

But in seeking to "put on a good show", Freyholtz had developed an unsafe flight profile for the C-17 that he repeatedly performed over large USAF audiences in 2009 as he toured with the Thunderbirds.
On 28 July, Freyholtz and three crew members - co-pilot Capt Jeffrey Hill, safety observer Maj Aaron Malone and loadmaster Senior Master Sgt Thomas Cicardo - took off in a steep, 40° climb.
The crash report notes that Freyholtz made two major errors within the first 10sec of the flight. In his steep ascent, the aircraft's airspeed never came within 33kt (61km/h) of the USAF's mandatory minimum for the C-17. Secondly, he levelled off at 850ft (260m) above ground level: barely half the minimum altitude required for the manoeuvre. But despite the mistakes, the C-17 was not yet at risk of crashing, the report says.
Freyholtz then banked the left wing by more than 60° to rapidly turn the C-17 by 80°. To reposition the transport for a high-speed pass of the runway, he then began a 2.4g, 260° right turn.
As Freyholtz then banked the right wing by more than 60° - rather than the USAF's "prescribed", 45° bank limit - the C-17 was actually travelling 6kt below stall speed, according to the report. That triggered an automatic stall warning system, including a stick-shaker and the word "stall" repeated over the intercom.
But Freyholtz initially disregarded the warning system, as he had trained the co-pilot and other peers that it was inaccurate during such a manoeuvre, the report claims.

It is not clear whether Freyholtz was aware that Hill had retracted the flaps before starting the 260° turn, which removed vital wing surface area for lift in such slow-speed conditions.
As the aircraft passed into a deep stall, the safety observer - Malone - swiftly repeated a phrase three times: "Watch your bank." Although the C-17 was already in a deep stall at low altitude, the aircraft may have been recoverable.
Freyholtz, however, seemed "channelised" on completing the turn, the report says. He reversed his stick pressure, but at the same time applied left rudder, which made the stall even worse. The C-17, already dangerously low, crashed within seconds.
Although Freyholtz has been blamed for the crash, the USAF's accident investigators also focused on the command climate. "Because he was an accomplished aviator, leadership allowed him to operate independently with little or no oversight," their report says.
The investigators also found evidence of lax procedural enforcement in the 3rd Airlift Wing. The checklist used before aerial demonstration flights was discovered to "resemble" the required document, but with major changes.
In 1994, the USAF lost a B-52 and all four officers onboard after the pilot - Lt Col Arthur Holland - stalled the bomber in a low-speed turn while practicing for an airshow. In the subsequent investigation, it was revealed that the unit's commanders had disregarded serious warnings about reckless flying by Holland from his peers and even junior officers.

Quelle!

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Freitag, 17. Dezember 2010, 23:57

"Same shit...different day!" ;(

Wie damals auf der Fairchild AFB als die B-52 in Spokane beim Training für eine Airshow abschmierte...auch bei einem solchen Manöver.
Schon damals wurde im Bericht auf die lasche Aufsicht über solche "Hot Shot" Piloten hingewiesen...

Traurig das es wieder zu solch einem Absturz kommen musste. :banghead:
Habe das Video noch nie vorher gesehen...aber es geht mir unter die Haut.

Ich sage nur ESSO-77 in Geilenkirchen (13.01.1999, siehe auch den Link in meiner Signatur)...nur das die Besatzung damals völlig ohne jede Schuld war un den Unfall nicht verhindern konnte. :traurig:
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Samstag, 18. Dezember 2010, 14:03

Ist beklemmend das Video anzuschauen, denn man weiss, nachdem die Klappen gefahren wurden, das alles schon vorbei ist, als er den zweiten Turn einleitet. ;(

"When my time on Earth is gone, and my activities here are past, I want they bury me upside down, and my critics can kiss my ass."Bob Knight

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.."
(Benjamin Franklin)