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SANTIAGO DE CHILE, 27. März (RIA Novosti). Russische Militärexperten zeigen sich vom Schauflug einer F-22 Raptor in Chile beeindruckt, machen jedoch auf einige Mängel dieses US-Kampfjets der fünften Generation aufmerksam.
Der F-22-Kampfjet sei wirklich eine beeindruckende Maschine der fünften Generation, sagte ein russischer Luftwaffenexperte RIA Novosti am Rande der Luftfahrtmesse FIDAE 2010 in Santiago de Chile: „Was wir gesehen haben, ist ein Beleg dafür, dass die US-Flugzeugindustrie einen großen Schritt vorangekommen ist und die russischen Konstrukteure in einiger Hinsicht eingeholt hat“.
Trotzdem hätten die Schauflüge auf einige Mängel der F-22-Maschine aufmerksam gemacht. Das betreffe unter anderem die Tarnkappentechnik: „Unsere Radare sind in der Lage, dieses Flugzeug zu orten, obwohl es auf Stealth-Technologien zurückgreift“.
Wie ein RIA-Novosti-Reporter vor Ort berichtete, absolvierte ein F-22-Kampfjet am Freitag einen siebenminütigen Flug in Santiago. Ihn beobachteten Experten aus allen Ländern, die an der dortigen Luftfahrtmesse teilnahmen.

• Die Fähigkeit von unbefestigten Pisten zu operieren
• Eine mögliche Verwendung auf Flugzeugträgern
• Die Einrüstung eines leistungsstarken IR- Sensors
• Nahezu riesige Weiterentwicklungspotenziale in Bezug auf Zelle, Antrieb, Avionik, EloKa
• 3D Schubvektor Steuerung schon jetzt mit den Interims-Triebwerken

Zitat von »sir_roma«

a sagen tun es viele. Wie kommt es z.b. das Russland das selbe behauptet und aber mit der T50 den selber weg geht... naja, mir solls egal sein.

• extremste Manövrierfähigkeit, welche durch eine ausgefeilte aerodynamische Auslegung und extrem überdimensionierte Triebwerke bedingt ist.
• Die gewaltige interne Tankkapazität von über 14000 Litern ( entspricht grob 25000 lbs)

• Zum Abheben war fast kein Ausschlag des Höhenruders zu sehen ( die Trimmung reicht alleine dafür..., ganz im Gegensatz zur F 35, welche nen ordentlichen Zug am Knüppel verlangt....)
• Die Landerollstrecke schätze ich persönlich auf knapp 600 Meter. Bedenke ich das Gewicht der Maschine, und setze mal ne Anflugsgeschwindigkeit von knapp 120 KIAS an, erzeugt die die Maschine gewaltigen Auftrieb ( der Rumpf insbesonders), welches auf ne niedrige Flächenbelastung und gewaltige Agilität schliessen lässt......

1. Die schnelle Veralterung der Jagdflugzeuge der teen-series
2. Die Verlagerung der Luftkämpfe zurück in den Nahbereich, bedingt durch supercruise, niedrige RCS und der Unfähigkeit radargesteuerter AAMs solche Ziele erfolgreich zu bekämpfen.
3. Das Aufkommen der Notwendigkeit, eine sechste Genaration an Kampfflugzeugen zu entwickeln gepaart mit dem Vorantreiben zügiger Drohnenentwicklung. Denn die derzeitigen Jäger der westlichen Hemisphere basieren auf den Entwicklungs- und Bedrohungsszenarien der 90er Jahre, im Falle des Raptors sogar aus den 80er Jahren.
   
4. Das Comeback der IR- Sensoren, welches eine Folge der unter 2. aufgeführten Punkte ist.
5. Eine radikale Verbesserung des JSF ( F 35 ) der in den meisten Parametern dem PAK- FA hoffnungslos unterlegen sein wird......
6. Eine genauere Analyse der russischen Luftfahrt, welche im Westen nach wie vor zu Unrecht unterschätzt, manchmal sogar belächelt wird.

• Die F 4 Phantom war/ ist fähig 5.5 G in 20000fts bei 0.8 Mach zu halten , bei nem internen Spritlevel von 40%.
• Die F 35 schafft nur 4.5 G in 15000fts Sie ist also langsamer, als die Phantom in größerer Höhe.
  

Zitat von »sir_roma«

ich hab den flieger schon in 3d

Zitat von »Superburschi«

3D gibt´s auch von Revell

Zitat von »mhe«

Daß sich die ausgefahrenen Flaps beim Querrudertest mitbewegen ist ja genial...
Will gar nicht wissen, was für eine Rollrate das Ding auch noch im langsamen Flug zustandebringt.

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Sukhoi has completed its preliminary flight and bench trials program for the T-50 PAK-FA fighter. Three airframes were built for the initial campaign, comprising one static aircraft (T-50-0), one flying prototype (T-50-1) and an avionics testbed (T-50-2). A display flight by T-50-1 on June 17 in front of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin marked the 16th time the aircraft had flown.

Russia has a stated requirement for up to 420 PAK-FA aircraft, which may become the Su-50 in service. This number would equip 10 air regiments, each with 36 frontline aircraft and six reserves. However, it is likely that this total will not be reached. India, meanwhile, has a requirement for 250 of what it calls the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA).

India has yet to join the T-50 program, but it has stated that it intends to do so and Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) will likely be given development work in the navigation, mission computer and other systems. FGFA is envisioned as a two-seater, but reports suggest that India could acquire single-seat T-50s pending development of the full FGFA configuration.

The T-50-1 was completed in the KnAAPO works at Dzemgi airfield near Komsomolsk-na-Amur. The first taxi tests were performed last December and high-speed tests were conducted in late January in preparation for the first flight. The maiden 47-minute sortie was flown on January 29 with Sergey Bogdan at the controls.

The aircraft flew again in early February to compete initial basic airworthiness and systems tests before being disassembled for transport to Moscow. On April 8 an Antonov An-124 Ruslan carried it to the Gromov Flight Research Institute at Zhukovsky, together with flight support equipment. The aircraft flew again from its new home on April 29.

Further T-50s will be constructed to support the flight test program, which Putin announced would encompass more than 2,000 flights. Initial production is scheduled to begin at KnAAPO in 2015, with limited service-entry to take place that year as well.

T-50 Technology
Sukhoi’s T-50 embodies a high degree of new technology and is intended to provide a “fifth-generation” capability in an aircraft that is considerably cheaper to produce than the Lockheed Martin F-22, its closest rival. Low observability in the forward hemisphere is a key driver in the T-50 design, which, in planform at least, resembles that of the F-22. The forward areas feature faceting (smooth, polished surfaces) and the design incorporates advanced radar-absorbent materials and coatings. The intake trunks are of serpentine shape, but whether they completely shield the engine compressor face and whether they incorporate some form of radar blocker has been the subject of considerable debate.

The engines themselves are the NPO Saturn 117, derived from the 117S intended for the Su-35BM. The first of these engines flew in the left-hand bay of the T-10M-10 (an Su-35 testbed) on January 21 this year, shortly before the T-50’s first flight. The engines incorporate 16-degree all-axis thrust vectoring, which combined with the relaxed stability and fly-by-wire controls confers outstanding maneuverability on the T-50. It is widely accepted that the T-50 will not match the Lockheed Martin F-22 fighter in terms of all-aspect stealthiness, but it is expected to be more agile. NPO Saturn and MMPP Salyut are working together on a definitive engine for the T-50, in the 16- to 16.5-metric-ton thrust class (that is, up to 36,375 pounds thrust).

An innovative feature of the T-50 is its SH121 radar complex from NIIP Tikhomirov. This comprises the N050 main array in the nose, with more than 1,500 transmit/receive modules, plus two side-facing X-band arrays in the lower forward fuselage sides. Conformal L-band arrays are mounted in the leading-edge root extensions. T-50-1 does not have radar fitted, but it does have a dummy infrared search-and-track turret installed. In service this is expected to be a development of the OLS-35 developed for the Su-35BM.

In terms of avionics, the T-50 represents a major advance for a Russian fighter and it has been designed to take full advantage of datalink and sensor-fusion technology. In the cockpit the pilot has two very large multifunction displays mounted side-by-side, with an upfront controller for a wide-angle head-up display. Control is by a center stick that incorporates advanced HOTAS controls. The pilot will have a helmet-mounted sighting system, perhaps based on the ZSh-10.

In its air-to-air role, the T-50 will have a wide range of weapons available, from internal 30-mm cannon to 400-km missiles. The aircraft’s huge internal bays can accommodate up to eight of the current Vympel R-77 active-radar missiles, but there are several developments under way to provide the PAK-FA with even more capable weapons.

Vympel is working on the Izdeliye 180/K-77M, a derivative of the R-77 with a double-pulse engine, new seeker and traditional tailfins in place of the R-77’s “chip-slicer” lattice fins. The Izdeliye 180PB/K-77ME is an air-breathing ramjet version similar in concept to the Meteor, but it appears that the solid-propellant version–roughly equivalent to the AIM-120D AMRAAM–offers greater potential in a shorter time.

The PAK-FA is also expected to carry a class of weapon unique to Russia–
a very long range air-to-air missile (VLRAAM), with a range of around 400 kilometers. Two designs are in development for the T-50 application: Vympel’s Izdeliye 810 and Novator’s Izdeliye 172/K-100. The T-50 will also carry short-range weapons.

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Russia's fifth-generation fighters for export will be cheaper than their foreign analogues, the general director of the aviation companies Sukhoi and MiG said on Tuesday.

"The price of the fifth-generation export variant is an issue for discussion and negotiation. But I can say that we believe its main advantage will be a competitive price margin," Mikhail Pogosyan said, adding that the aircraft would be significantly more expensive than Russia's fourth-generation fighter model.
He said that the new-generation fighter will be presented at the 2011 MAKS air show outside Moscow.
"Next year you will be able to see how the fifth-generation fighter takes off," Pogosyan said.
Russia's only known fifth-generation project is Sukhoi's PAK FA and the current prototype is the T-50. It is designed to compete with the U.S. F-22 Raptor, so far the world's only fifth-generation fighter, and the F-35 Lightning II.
In mid-June, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin observed the 16th test flight of a prototype model of the new fighter.
Russia has been developing the model since the 1990s. The country's top military officials have said the stealth fighter jet, with a range of up to 5,500 km, should enter service with the Air Force in 2015.