That's great. I'm wondering, since I am only using 2 monitors, if it also allows undocking the cockpit so that I can have all controls on one and just the outside view on the other. This would at least compensate somewhat for not being able to hide the cockpit with one monitor.   In any case, if I can't get ATC and AI traffic at least as sophisticated and accurate as FSX, I will stay away. That is a no-go for me. But like I said, I'll reserve judgement until 2024 is released.

Thanks for the tip Tiger but sadly it didn't fix the game.   I'm in a vicious loop.   The game is missing critical files, verify integrity via Steam, then it wants more updates, following which the game is missing critical files.   I fear the patch needs a patch.   Lots of people are having similar issues.  Thanks for the try Tiger much appreciated.

It gained multi-monitor support a few updates ago.    

Reading through the other forums, I did see it is possible in 2020. I agree so much, but on occasion ATC will smoke a doobie and forget I exist. Usually airport dependent and the work around is to create a custom IFR. Usually happens if the vector change is immediately after handoff.... i think. 

To link the Club threads together, I've started on my Round The World flight in a Lancaster commemorating the RAF's first such flight in 1944.   The new thread's here :-   

I mentioned my plans to do this in the Oz Rally FBO a while back, but now I've started the flight itself. and its backstory takes some telling.   My youngest daughter is a Warrant Officer in the RAF and she's based at RAF Shawbury in the West Midlands of the UK. A while back she asked me if I'd like to come as her guest to their 'Aries Night Dinner', and never looking a gift dinner in the mouth I accepted, not having a clue what it was really about. They have the dinner every year to commemorate the first ever flight around the world by an RAF aircraft that took place in 1944, and it was flown by a Lancaster, PD328, which was named 'Aries'. The aircraft was part of the RAF'S Navigation School based at Shawbury and made many significant flights during its time with the unit. The 'Aries Night Dinner' is an occasion to make awards to the station staff etc. and was a very good event.   As a result of that dinner I looked into the history of PD328 later on, and amazingly last month's 'Flypast Magazine' had a feature on 'Aries' and its successors as well, and after my FSX RTW flight for the Oz Rally I decided to re-fly 'Aries' flight in FSX.    It didn't turn out quite as easy as I figured of course, primarily because when PD328 made that first RAF RTW flight it was pretty much an 'out of the box' Lancaster with all its turrets in place and painted in the then standard camouflage scheme. Much though I like Lancasters, I liked 'Aries' later look even better as after WWII she'd had her turrets removed, and the nose and tail replaced with the low drag civilian Lancastrian items, and had her mid-upper turret replaced by an extra astrodome, but she still carried her H2S radar scanner under the belly, and had all the paint stripped to fly in an all natural metal scheme.   There was no chance I'd find an FSX model of 'Aries' just like that of course, but I did find an excellent Lancastrian by Paul Edwards and Manfred Jahn, file name 'Avro_Lancastrian_ii' on Avsim, and the NMF finish of these aircraft looked well nigh perfect for what I had in mind. With the aid of my daughter and the Flypast mag article I got enough info together to do a repaint of Paul & Manfred's aircraft into something that looked a bit more like 'Aries', even if it didn't have the extra astrodome or the H2S scanner, but it was close enough for what I wanted.   So y'day afternoon I set off on yet another RTW flight, the first leg flying from Shawbury to Prestwick in Scotland, just a short trip to figure out fuel burn rates at various altitudes etc. The magazine article listed most of the airfields that 'Aries' used on its record breaking flight and I'm gathering sceneries for all the ones I can find of course, Shawbury being OK as it stands in FSX and the Prestwick scenery is quite a bit better than standard.   I used Active Sky real world weather and FSTramp as a flight planning and auto-pilot tool, and I'd also updated the Lanc's panel a little bit as well, and will do more as the flight goes on I expect, as it doesn't even have a clock on it at present!   Here's 'Aries' sitting on the ramp at Shawbury in her new markings, and no, I have NO Idea what the 'F GFA' codes mean on the fuselage.      It was a lengthy taxi to the 18 runway threshold, but eventually here we are ready to go on this VERY long flight!     It's only just over an hour's flight to Prestwick and on this leg I flew at 10000 ft and approx 200 kts, flight plan below.     The Lancaster panel is pretty basic, but has quite a complex and informative pop-up fuel panel as well, which enabled me to keep track of the fuel flow etc.     At 10000 ft over the UK at this time of year there's very little chance of seeing the scenery and so it proved, mostly it looked this out outside.......     I did spot a few lakes en route, as I'm prone to do even if I can't do any splash-and-goes on this flight! This one's Ullswater in the Lake District.     Here's 'Aries' making the only major turn on the trip as she headed for the Scottish coast line south of Ayr.     And as I approached the coastline I flew over a Scottish Loch too, Loch Doon.     Heading north up the coast and descending I just caught a glimpse of Prestwick over to starboard before making the 180 turn to land on its 21 runway.     The FST auto-pilot made its usual over enthusiastic descent and I took manual control as soon as I was lined up, but a little low for safety. And yet again some gawp has plonked a tree RIGHT on the runway centre-line, this one in the middle of the Calvert lights even!     I gentled her onto the runway in pouring rain and soon turned off to head west to a large hangar in that direction, but en route I spotted an oddity on the far side of the airfield....     It was the singular Antonov An-225 Mrya, and I know for sure that the Russians bombed it to scrap last year. Hm...........     Anyway, that was the first leg complete and I'd collected some fuel burn data for flight planning on later legs.   The flight took 1 hr and 12 mins, probably the shortest one of the whole exercise, and I flew 233 nms. The fuel burn worked out at 424 gals/hr, which I guess isn't bad for four thirsty Merlins.   Next stop Reykjavik in Iceland, quite a bit further away, maybe three times as far............

Thanks for the info Tiger.  I'll try it out as soon as MSFS installs another 20GB of updates.  After telling me that was finished. Then I get "files that are essential to the game are missing".   Go to Steam and verify files.  Repaired 8 files.  Now it wants the added 20GB.......I'd LIKE to be able to just roll back the patch and go back to the version that's been working for 4 years.   Sorry for the rant.  Fingers crossed for your fix Tiger.   I'll let you know how it goes.

Ty, good responses. I actually got recommended a video from pilot debrief where a pilot was expecting an ILS approach but the runway was closed and they diverted him to another runway gps. Sadly being pilot debrief it didn't end well as the pilot wasn't prepared for an alternate approach.     In my own experience i was being vectored GPS which was a first for me, caught me off guard. The video was identical to my situation, except i was in a 30,000 pound jet

When it comes to the nitty-gritty of scenery design, this is the place to get help: https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/

The only time I had a "water salute" was when people poured beer over me (which I more than repaid for in the local afterwards), when I ended my first solo flight.  I am aware it occasionally occurs at a few airports when commercial airline pilots flying for major airlines make their retirement flights.  But I'm not aware of it ever being an option in any sim.   However it might be an interesting project for someone with a ton of time on their hands to create.  If that should occur, we'd love to see it and read how it was done! 

I really want to have a water salute with fire trucks for cinematic purposes, but can't find forums online for this sim, so is it possible? I tried to edit one of the fire truck addons for the sim but it's still going straight, I want it to pitch it up and then fall back down, like real life. Thanks!

Specs: MSI Raider GE76 12UE laptop 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H 2.70GHz 32 GB RAM NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3030 Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS Windows 11 Home v.23H2 Latest MSFS 2020 update installed   Hello...I k now I'm not alone in this, but I have a recurring issue that has made the sim unplayable for a few months. After five or ten minutes, regardless of where I am in the sim, my laptop completely freezes and there is a loud buzzing noise in the background. I can only shut down the laptop by holding down the on-off key until it turns off. It does it even in safe mode. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I'm planning on purchasing this addon as it's only 5 dollars (250 pesos for my country's currency) although I'm not sure if it's really that good. So should I buy it? if so, what are features that is not mentioned in the trailer or website? can it be applied to almost all aircraft addons? I have questions.

By the way, Skywatcher12, I see your logo... the playoffs this year have been fantastic! (Yeah, I know not for Pittsburgh...).

I am enjoying this discussion (just recently signed up for this forum after decades of FS usage, from the first to now.) I tried MSFS2020. I had really high hopes for it. After all, most of us simmers DO like realistic terrain and visuals. MSFS2020 had amazing detail and scenery, right dow to the streets around my neighborhood. So, from that aspect, I was blown away. But my enthusiasm took a huge divebomb when I encountered all the features that were missing- features and user-friendlineess that FS9 and FSX both had.   For instance, being able to hide the cockpit (the good old "W" key). In FS2020 you have to set up custom camera views to get close and even then you don't get the same perspective. The W key worked and allowed you to enjoy the scenery from the same perspective as your cockpit seat.   Then there was the angle of viewing, or raising or lowering the seat... in FS9/FSX you can change the angle so that you could see more ground, not just sky, when in the cockpit. I found this essential for landings.   Then there was the ATC in FS2020. To be blunt, it sucks, and there are a zillion posts about all the external ATC packages that you can buy and how well or not they work with FS2020. What a waste! ATC in FSX works fine. Why/how could they not get THAT right? OK, the voices/terminolgy aren't 100% realistic? Who cares? ATC in FSX, on an IFR flight, always gets me there, vectors me for ILS landings, etc. Is it perfect real? I'm not a real-world pilot so I'll guess and say "probably not" but it works, is enjoyable, and is user-friendly.   Then there is the complexity of the big planes. First, the airlines that come with FSS2020 didn't work well from day one and you have to buy one if you want one that works. Then, they are so complex. I want a degree of realism in my big planes but I don't want to have to read a 50 page manual and go through a 10 minute startup procedure every time I fly. There are so many choices for addons for FSX, from simple to more complex airlines and jets.   Finally, and this is hard to fathom in this day and age, MSFS still, after several years, has no multi monitor support.   I can't understand why, when developing a new sim, you wouldn't keep the things that worked well, then add the visuals. If I could get a sim that worked as well, ran as smoothly on a decent computer, and was as stable and user-friendly as FSX, but had the scenery advancements of MSFS2020/2024, I'd pay a bunch for that. It hasn't happened.   I will probably try 2024 when it comes out, in hopes that they figured out all this stuff, but I have my doubts. I just added Traffic Global to FSX and I'm loving it even more. Pete